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This document is meant to provide some documentation of rough consens
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of where karm should be going and how things should be done.
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It does not represent something set in stone. Things can be discussed
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and changed.
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* karm should not interfere if the user wants to run multiple tasks at
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the same time that add up to more that 100%.
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It'd be nice though to have the possibility to have one task at a time
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only (currently through double click).
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Or to let tasks' shares add up to 100%. Maybe through the context menu
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("share time with other task").
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* tasks should update their own time and pass changes on down to the root.
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The root is responsable for updating the status bar.
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Subject: Re: [Kde-pim] karm: how tasks should work
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From: Scott Monachello <smonach@cox.net>
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Date: 2002-10-26 9:38:23
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On Thursday 24 October 2002 06:37 pm, tomas pospisek wrote:
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> OK guys, I'm moving this into public space. I think we're open source so
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> it's here where these things should be discussed. I hope citing your
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> proposition in public is fine with you Scott. So here it comes,
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> reformatted to fit into a mail:
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>
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> Scott Monachello propopsed [reformatted by tpo]
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>
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> > Requirements for Karm Subtask Functions
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> >
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> > This is how HEAD currently operates.
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> > Id Description
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> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > 1 Karm shall provide a hierarchical structure of tasks. If a task
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> > has at least one subtask it will be referred to as a parent task.
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> > If a task has no children it will be referred to as a leaf task.
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> > If a task has no parent tasks it will be referred to as a root
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> > task.
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> > 2 A new task can be created as a child of any existing task.
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> > 2.1 If the parent had a timer active, it will continue to be active
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>
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> It depends on how you start it. If you double click it. Any other timer
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> will be stopped and the new task started. If you start it through the
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> start button, both tasks will be active. This a bug IMO. See at the bottom
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> for my proposal.
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>
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> > 2.2 The session time for the parent will not be changed by adding
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> > the new child task.
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> > 2.3 The total time for the parent will not be changed by adding a
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> > the new child task.
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> > 3 Any task (parent, leaf, or root) may have an independent timer.
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> > 4 The time (both session and total) for a parent will be the sum
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> > of its independent timer and the sum of all of its child timers.
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> >
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> > Unstable Development
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> > This is my proposal for how Unstable_Development should operate. I
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> > changed 2.1 - 4 and added and added 2.2.1 and 1008.
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> >
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> > Id Description
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> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > 1 Karm shall provide a hierarchical structure of tasks. If a task
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> > has at least one subtask it will be referred to as a parent task.
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> > If a task has no children it will be referred to as a leaf task.
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> > If a task has no parent tasks it will be referred to as a root
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> > task.
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> > 2 A new task can be created as a child of any existing task.
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> > 2.1 If the parent had a timer active, it will be deactivated
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> > 2.2 The session time for the parent will set to zero
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> > 2.2.1 The session time for the child will be initialized to the last
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> > session time of the parent.
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> > 2.3 The total time for the parent will be set to zero.
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> > 2.3.1 The total time for the parent will be initialized to the last
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> > total time of the parent.
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> > 3 Only a leaf task may have a timer. A parent may not have its own
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> > timer.
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> > 4 The time (both session and total) for a parent will be the sum
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> > only of its child timers.
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>
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> I see where you want to go, but I think it's not the right direction for
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> two reasons:
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>
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> 1. Let's say I'm working on karm - I have a generic task "karm". Now I
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> start working on the docu and add a subtask "docu". Right now I can
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> switch between a generic task "working on karm" and more specific
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> subtask "docu". Times are added together at the task "karm". That makes
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> sense IMO. If I don't want to be specific I can - if I do want to be
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> more precise I can as well. With your proposal this is not possible any
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> more.
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>
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> 2. You break current setups. People are (I guess) using karm for real life
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> things. When you change the behaveour to what you propose this
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> force them to reorganize their trees. As a user, personally I'm not
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> looking forward having to do this.
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>
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> My proposition is:
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>
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> Id Description
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 2.1 If a new task is double clicked or started with the start
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> button the previous task is stopped.
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So, only one task is ever active at one time, right? Tasks should be more like
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radio boxes rather than check boxes.
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> 2.1.1 If someone feels like it s/he can add an entry/functionality into
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> the context menu of a task to have it share proportionally the
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> time being stopped with other tasks currently running. All the
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> times always add up to 100%.
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> This can be useful when doing >1 task at a time (compiling and
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> phoning f.ex.)
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I've been thinking about something along these lines too. I think it's a good
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idea but can't quite see how the interface should work.
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>
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> The rest stays the same as in HEAD.
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>
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> Additionaly I propose:
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>
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> Id Description
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 5 Times can be dragged and dropped, whereby they get transferred and
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> added to the destination.
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> 6 We move to scheme where times have a beginning and an ending and
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> not just an absolute value.
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>
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> Comments?
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> *t
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>
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> PS: Please follow up to the mailing list.
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Ok. So, I'll undo the changes related to:
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* summing only leaf tasks
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* disallowing edits on parent tasks
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